Thursday, November 5, 2009

BTN: ‘Who is to define a terrorist?’ - By Bella Jaisinghani - TNN - The Times of India, Mumbai

This is a liberal article. Let readers know the conservative view point as well.

It is the job of the dictionary to define the terrorist. Please refer.

Bush doctrine defines, what to do "मार दिया जाये की छोड़ दिया जाये" with those countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan who harbor terrorists.

Let us see the difference between radical Taliban and so called imperial power United States.

  • During Kandahar  Hijacking of Indian Airlines Flight IC-814 - March 13, 2000 - Taliban let the terrorists go in stead of capturing them and extraditing/prosecuting them over to India. Powerless India, couldn't do any thing as Bush doctrine was not there.
  • On 26/11 trial Pakistan's stagecraft is better than the state craft; no hope for justice or transparency.
  • American FBI arrested its own citizen David Coleman Headley,  for plotting terror-attacks overseas, including India. He was arrested early this month by FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force at O'Hare International Airport before boarding a flight to Philadelphia, intending to travel to Pakistan.
  • A Canadian businessperson, Tahawwur Hussain Rana, who owns an immigration services company with offices in Chicago, New York and Toronto, will remain behind bars in Chicago charged with helping to plot a terrorist attack against a Danish newspaper -- the second high-profile terror arrest in the United States during recent weeks with a Canadian connection.
Indian Muslim advocates, who cry foul on America's war on Terror, may let the readers know, Why did America arrested its own citizen for planning attack on India ? Why Taliban and Pakistan didn't do so ?

Now coming to "I do not think a single prisoner of Guantanamo Bay is actually involved in the 9/11 attacks,'' Yee said." remark.

Check out the Gitmo details for
al-Kahtani, Abu Zubaydah and Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in wiki-pedia.

And don't forget to thank  President George W. Bush's dream team (himself,his CIA director George Tenet,Attorney John Yoo, Vice-President  Cheney and secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld, Alberto Gonzalez ).

Special thank to attorney John Yoo, for his  4 page "torture memo", which legalized torture as enhanced interrogation and beat the hell out of terrorists that, they begged for suicide and Allah was not listening. They will never ever will dream be a suicide human bomb courtesy CIA torture, even though promised of thousands of beautiful girls in heaven.



How far one can go to extract information from terrorists ? What you have done it under similar circumstances.

I have come across an analogy., you may read and judge, whether America was wrong to attack Taliban ? or torturing the terrorists ?

Case-1:

You walk into your home to find an armed intruder threatening to shoot your spouse and children, trapped with nowhere to run. Fortunately, you have a gun.

You try to negotiate, but the intruder is in no mood to talk. His intention is murder.

You have seconds to decide. What do you do?

For many, the answer is clear. You fight to save your family. And most of us would call that self defense. Most Christians would agree that any action would be not only morally permissible, but also morally required.

Case-2:
You are a CIA interrogator facing an avowed terrorist who was caught in the act of preparing for murder. You know he has information about a plot to blow up an unidentified building in a large American city. Innocent lives hang in the balance.

For hours you have attempted to extract the life-saving information from him, but to no avail. The last option is one you believe will work: water-boarding, but you have only a few minutes to decide. What do you do?

Again, for most of us, the answer is clear. You do what you have to do to save those innocent lives, which in this case means water-boarding the terrorist. You are saving other people's families.

Note, that the intent of the interrogators was not to cause pain to the detainees but to save lives. So, any thing CIA and Military have done to extract information, from the people who dare to become a suicide human bomb, is Okay.

I doubt whether they will ever read the following verses from Quaran:
The calls for violence and murder – Sura 4, Verse 89 and Sura 47, Verse 4 -, terrorism – Sura 8, Verse 60 – and war – Sura 8, Verse 39.
 The Koran describes Jews as monkeys and pigs – Sura 2, Verse 65 / Sura 5, Verse 60 and Sura 7, Verse 166.


President George W. Bush will go down to history as the man who fought the "War On Terror" and hunted down the radicals from US drones and India, which couldn't do any thing during the Kandahar hijacking, has got reason to smile, when the terrorists are hunted down by USA in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

Whether, you have the courage to admit it or not, it is Bush doctrine, which allowed Sri Lanka to finish LTTE;It legitimized any current ot future pre-emptive attack of a "victim" country over the "sponsor" country.

Thanks
Manoj Padhi

More....How to deal with the people who hurt our near and dear ?

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Manoj Padhi

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From: Ghulam Muhammed <ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 12:25 AM
Subject: 'Who is to define a terrorist?' - By Bella Jaisinghani - TNN - The Times of India, Mumbai


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The Times of India

Updated: Thursday, 05 November, 2009 11:37:04am

'Who is to define a terrorist?'


Bella Jaisinghani | TNN 


Mumbai: "The Taliban is not the enemy of the US. The only reason US soldiers are being killed by the Taliban in Afghanistan is because the Americans are in that country.'' Words that caused heads to turn at an Islamic conference in the city which had invited a former detainee of Guantanamo Bay as Wednesday's main speaker. 

    Straightaway, James Yusuf Yee drew an interested crowd of listeners, some sympathetic, most curious. The New Jersey-born cleric had been held at the infamous Guantanamo Bay detention centre in Cuba for purported links with the Al-Qaeda even as he served as a chaplain with the US military.
 
    Charged with serious offences that include sedition, espionage and aiding the enemy, as well as minor ones like storing pornographic material on his official computer, Yee was held in Gitmo where he served for 76 days in 2003.
However, a year later, the US government dropped court martial charges and granted him an honourable discharge from service. 

    Since his release, the 40-year-old Chinese-American convert has written a book and become a sought-after speaker at international conferences, the lat
est being a ten-day peace meet organised by Zakir Naik's Islamic Research Foundation (IRF) at the Somaiya Grounds in Sion. Naik and his brother Mohammed flanked Yee as he freely expressed his feelings about the country of his birth without fear of retribution upon his return. 

    Even as he declared his pride in being American, his discourse was peppered with sardonic references to the "demonisation of Muslims'' in that 
country and the "so-called war on terror that uses Islam as a weapon''. "Who is to decide the definition of a terrorist?'' Yee added. "Civil society must grant every person who is accused of terrorism the right to a full trial in a criminal court.'' 

    As his defence assumed combative tones, he was asked to comment on the rights of victims of terrorism. "Well, there are bereaved families in America who feel that Gitmo detainees should be severely punished. But equally several others have forgiven them because they do not want others to experience a similar loss. At any rate, I do not think a single prisoner of Guantanamo Bay is actually involved in the 9/11 attacks,'' Yee said. 

    Inevitably, a point was raised about President Obama's premature Nobel being a direct result of his famous Reconciliation-with-Islam speech. Admitting that he had campaigned for Obama's nomination over that of Hillary Clinton, then proudly recalling that he was present at the presidential inauguration, Yee went on to express disappointment with his former hero. "Obama has failed to come good on his word to close Guantanamo down,'' he said, even though the closure is due in January 2010.


MAKING A POINT: Former US army chaplain James Yusuf Yee




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