great to hear all these words from your mouth. Not only you restrain yourself from posting such articles but also dont go overboard such conversation as there are some members within the group, who happily enjoy to incite people. Let's be constructive. Just Take for example even if you are propagating hindutva ideaology, how many hindus in theis 600-member group are supporting your acts. just giving you some points to think.
So, dont think these two or three people (Singh brothers) who support you through their words, let me very frank, they are just provoking you to get maximum enjoyment here.
So come on lets make it a better group for better Bihar, Odissa and then Best India.....
cheers
chandan
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:08 PM, Manoj Padhi <manojpadhi@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear all:
Blogging and informing people about facts is a 'mission'.
My mentor, the veteran editor /Journalist Shri Subhas Chandra Pattanayak, guided me with the following statement:
"We ought to invest time on issues that affect us collectively"
If you believe that by sitting at home/going to office and doing your regular job is enough in today's chaotic environment - you are definitely mistaken.
In between the Government and silent people, there is an activist layer, who do full time job of 'propaganda' and Government is forced to believe that the voice of propagandists is the true voice of 'silent persons'.
Whatever I am doing is in your own interest.
Nevertheless, Tanweer/Chandan's reservations are noted and I will personally exercise maximum restraint not to post such matter, which upsets few active members. However, having domain knowledge of terrorists/religion, if any discussion is initiated by any member, I will offer my opinion. I will apprise you about the 'propagandas' of traitors as is without any personal opinion of mine.
However, as asserted by Tanweer, I am not a terrorist and live in a free country where 'Freedom of speech' is respected. I am a big admirer of President George W Bush ..
So Tanweer's proposed methods may not work..
Bush is only Good for America , but cannot be compared with Lord Ram - Jibanendra Mahanty George Bush as Ram & Man Mohan Singh as Ravana - A comparision (By OTN)
You will enjoy the above ..President George Bush as 'Ram'.. discussion..
Thanks
Manoj padhiOn Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Tanweer Hasnain <tanweer_hasnain@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear friends,
Manoj, the terrorist, is using his office time, space, and energy to run the blogs of his choice and preaching Christians, Muslims, and Hindus to be sincere and honest.
We need to find out his Texas-based employer and forward all his junk mails, spewed during the work hours.
If he runs any organization using the 301 C tax exempt status, we need to report it to the IRS for investigation.
If he is running his own business, but getting any kind of government contract, we need to report his hate-mongering activities to the Attorney General of Texas so he can be blacklisted.
I urge his sleeping 600 email group members to participate in this campaign. This is the only way we can get handle on this wild monster, phatphathi.
Tanweer
Chandan KumarSubject: BTN: Re: The evidence::"Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."You dont have any option other than that. Bharat jag chuka hai. kuch logon ke whim par desh nahi chalega....
Angrejon, Bihari group chhodo , oriya bihar chhodo, GO BACK TO ODIYA GROUP........ GO BACK ...GO BACK>>>>>
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:42 AM, rajeev singh <to_rajeevsingh@yahoo.com> wrote:
Forgive and Forget. That is what we are doing for ages.
From: Chandan kumar <kchandankumar@gmail.com>Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:34 AM
Subject: BTN: Re: The evidence::"Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."
To: BIHARTODAY@googlegroups.com
What will you do after that. Let me and group members know. You cant do anything more than blocking my membership to this group. I again appeal to all the members, if i am banned, throw shoes on this man.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:30 AM, rajeev singh <to_rajeevsingh@yahoo.com> wrote:
I TOLD YOU LAST TIME... From: Chandan kumar <kchandankumar@gmail.com>Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 11:28 AM
Subject: BTN: Re: The evidence::"Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."
To: BIHARTODAY@googlegroups.com
At the max, only that you can do for the sake of nation ....abusive language. You have been doing that from very begining. There is nothing new in that. you either abuse muslims or me. It is something, it seems, u have got in inheritance. Better, you visit a doctor to check your Blood pressure.
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:20 AM, rajeev singh <to_rajeevsingh@yahoo.com> wrote:By 4 p.m. on Nov. 26, the trawler approached the shores of Mumbai. The leader of the crew, identified by Indian investigators as Ismail Khan, 25, from a town called Dera Ismail Khan in the Northwest Frontier Province, contacted their handlers and received instructions. When darkness set in, they killed the captain of the trawler, Mr. Solanki. Then they boarded a motorized dinghy, the engine of which, Indian investigators say, bore marks from a Lahore-based importing company. They reached Mumbai at about 8:30 p.m., and in five teams of two, set upon their targets: the city's busiest railway station known as Victoria Terminus, a tourist haunt called Café Leopold, the Jewish center in Nariman House, and two luxury hotels, the Taj and Oberoi.
Subject: BTN: Re: The evidence::"Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."
To: BIHARTODAY@googlegroups.com
when asked, what can you do for the nation, these people belong to the same class, which says that our brothers will sacrifice lives for nation, but this bugger will stay here to spit venom. there is buil-up along the border. why doesnt this man go there?
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 11:09 AM, rajeev singh <to_rajeevsingh@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tell me what is offensive in the mail? People shouldn't have any sympathy with terrorist and there is nothing like bad terrorism or good terrorism. There is nothing worse than terrorism.
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Chandan kumar <kchandankumar@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Chandan kumar <kchandankumar@gmail.com>
Subject: BTN: Re: The evidence::"Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."
To: BIHARTODAY@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:57 AM
ok, lets talk sense and tell especially, Mr Padhi what at the max one can do for the sake of nation???
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 2:19 AM, Tanweer Hasnain <tanweer_hasnain@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,
We all Bihari must kick this cobra out of this group. He can only vomit venom . He is worst than a terrorist.
Tanweer
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 12:11:52 -0600
From: manojpadhi@gmail.com
To: misra.amaresh@gmail.com; ghulammuhammed3@gmail.com
Subject: BTN: The evidence::"Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."
CC: OrissaToday@googlegroups.com; BiharToday@googlegroups.com; HindToday@googlegroups.com; ipta@googlegroups.com; tamilnadutoday@googlegroups.com; AndhraOne@googlegroups.com; SingurOnline@yahoogroups.com; urja-delhi-rwas@googlegroups.com
What is common among all 3 ? All are terrorist organizations , who, either fight a direct war (with Israel) or a proxy war (on behalf of Pakistani Army) with in India.
Hezbollah fought for prestige of Islam
- Hamas is doing the same
- LeT is doing the same
They are told that if they die for prestige of Islam, even if they are suicide, they won't be designated as 'dead' by Allah.
CC: Mr. Ghulam Muhammad/Mr. Amresh Mishra to go through the evidence and let the people of India know about their RSS-MOSSAD-CIA conspiracy theories.. All sane people are listening..
Thanks
Manoj Padhi
Dossier From India Gives New Details of Mumbai Attacks
Published: January 6, 2009NEW DELHI — In the beginning, they were 32. A squad of suicide bombers raised in Pakistan, they were taught how to make bombs, withstand interrogation, and fight to their death.
[ http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/world/asia/07india.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1&hp ]
They were whittled down to 10, and on a Saturday morning in November, they set sail from Karachi with coordinates plotted on a global positioning set. Once in Mumbai, they went on a killing spree, leaving 163 dead, all the while receiving detailed instructions and pep talks from their handlers across the border. Details of their gory mission have been compiled by Indian authorities and officially shared Monday with the Pakistani government. The New York Times has seen a copy of the dossier.
The information seems designed to achieve at least two Indian objectives. First, it seeks to demonstrate that the attackers were sent from Pakistan. It contains photographs of materials found on the fishing trawler, from a bottle of Mountain Dew soda packaged in Karachi to pistols that bore the markings of a gun manufacturer in Peshawar to a Pakistani-made matchbox, detergent powder, and shaving cream, called "Touchme."
Second, it seeks to rally international support for the Indian effort to squeeze Pakistan. It contains a list of 26 foreigners killed in the attacks, chronicles India's efforts in recent years to persuade Pakistan to investigate suspects involved in terror attacks inside India and shut down terror training camps inside Pakistani territory. In its final pages, it demands that Pakistan hand over "conspirators" to face trial in India and comply with its promise to stop terrorist groups from functioning inside its territory. It was shared this week with diplomats from friendly nations; one described it as "comprehensive," another as "convincing."
Although the dossier takes pains not to blame serving or former officials in Pakistan's army or spy agency, Indian officials have consistently hinted at their complicity, at least in training the commando-style fighters who carried it out. On Tuesday, the Indian Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, upped the ante but stopped short of making a direct accusation. "There is enough evidence to show that, given the sophistication and military precision of the attack, it must have had the support of some official agencies in Pakistan," he said.
Pakistan on Tuesday rejected the Indian allegation. "Scoring points like this will only move us further away from focusing on the very real and present danger of regional and global terrorism," Sherry Rehman, Pakistan's Information Minister, said in a statement, according to the Associated Press. "It is our fond resolve to insure that non-state actors to do not use Pakistan's soil to launch terrorist attack any where in the world."
Pakistan has said it is examining the information dispatched by India.
The dossier, along with a power-point presentation made to diplomats here, narrates a journey of zeal, foibles and careful planning, one whose blow-by-blow media coverage was followed by handlers, believed to be in Pakistan, and used in turn to caution the gunmen on the ground about the movement of Indian security forces and motivate them to keep fighting.
"Everything is being recorded by the media. Inflict the maximum damage. Keep fighting. Don't be taken alive," says a caller to a gunman inside the Oberoi Hotel close to 4 a.m. on the first day of the three-day siege.
"Throw one of two grenades at the Navy and police teams, which are outside," came one instruction to the gunmen inside the Taj Mahal hotel.
"Keep two magazines and three grenades aside and expend the rest of your ammunition," went another set of instructions to the attackers inside Nariman House, which housed an Orthodox Jewish center, on the second evening, with a directive to "conclude" the operation the next morning.
The telephone conversations, selected transcripts of which have been compiled in the dossier, chronicle a steady exchange between the attackers in Mumbai and their counselors.
At the Taj, they are asked whether they have set the hotel on fire; one of the attackers says he is preparing a mattress for that purpose. At the Oberoi, one of them asks whether to spare women ("kill them," comes the terse reply) and Muslims (he is told to release them and kill the rest, all the while keeping the phone line open so their interlocutors can hear the gunfire). At Nariman House, a residential building which housed a Jewish community center, they are told how to damage India's standing with a key ally, Israel.
"Keep in mind that the hostages are of use only as long as you do not come under fire because of their safety," a handler, identified only as Wassi, exhorts. "If you are still threatened, then don't saddle yourself with the burden of the hostages. Immediately kill them."
"Yes, we shall do accordingly," the gunman inside Nariman House replies. "God willing."
"If the hostages are killed, it will spoil relations between India and Israel," Wassi continues.
According to the investigation, the 10 men boarded a small boat in Karachi at 8 a.m. on Nov. 22, sailed a short distance before boarding a bigger carrier called the Al-Husseini, believed to be owned by Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, a key operative of a banned Pakistan-based terrorist group called Lashkar-e-Taiba. The following day, the 10 men took over an Indian fishing trawler, called the MV Kuber, killed four of its crew members, spared its captain, Amar Singh Solanki, and sailed 550 nautical miles across the Arabian Sea.
Each man had two-hour watch duties on board. Each carried individual weapon packs: a Kalashnikov, a 9-millimeter pistol, ammunition, hand grenades and a bomb, weighing 8 kilograms and containing a military-grade explosive called RDX, steel ball bearings and a timer with instructions inscribed in Urdu.
They made one mistake. As they were leaving the fishing trawler, they told their handlers later on the phone, the waves were high and another boat was approaching, which they feared was an Indian Navy ship. They left behind Ismail Khan's satellite phone; it was recovered by Indian investigators and its photograph included in the dossier. A GPS, also recovered from the trawler suggests they kept a safe distance of at least 60 kilometers from Indian shore until they got closer to Mumbai.
The gunmen seemed to use Indian mobile phones during the course of the attacks. Their counselors, 6 in all, used Voice-Over-Internet-Protocol numbers, including one from an American company called "Callphonex."
The telephone calls stop, inexplicably, about 24 hours into the attacks.
The last call transcript in the dossier is at 10:26 p.m. on Nov. 27, between a gunman inside Nariman House and his interlocutor. "Brother you have to fight," says the caller. "This is a matter of the prestige of Islam."
By the morning of Nov. 29, Indian forces had killed 9 of the fighters.
And then, there was one: the sole survivor, Mohammed Ajmal Kasab, is in the custody of the Mumbai police. His interrogation turned up the most frightening detail. He was part of a cadre of 32 would-be suicide bombers, that was later joined by an additional three men. A team of six went to Indian-administered Kashmir, Mr. Kasab told his interrogators.
Ten were kept in isolation for more than three months, in a house near Karachi, until they were instructed to go to Mumbai.
The dossier says nothing about what happened to the remaining trainees. Whether or where they will strike next remains a mystery.
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