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-Manoj Padhi
http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20090080813
VP seeks legislation for minorities
Press Trust of India
Tuesday, January 20, 2009, (New Delhi)
Concerned over attacks on minorities, Vice President Hamid Ansari has suggested the government to enact of a law on the lines of an SC/ST Act, which can prevent atrocities on them.
"The option of a legislation similar to the Scheduled Castes and the Scheduled Tribes (Prevention of Atrocities) Act can be explored for the minorities," he told an annual conference of state minorities commissions in New Delhi.
Maintaining that procedures to redress grievances of minorities "remain somewhat ineffective", Ansari said the government could consider giving powers to National Minority Commission to take up investigation as in the case of NHRC and SC/ST Commissions.
He asked the state minority commissions to muster support for setting up of Diversity Commission, Diversity Implementation Boards and Equal Opportunity Commission as institutional mechanisms for affirmative action and policy targeting.
Comments on above:
THE LOGICAL ANSWER/SOLUTION: Minorities (India) or the Weaker actor (Palestinians) can't trigger a hate crime against majority and expect no retaliation and seek protection from constitution.
Politicians and constitution can promise anything; but the hard fact that the implementers of constitution are also from majority community and they mourn the tragic death of their people in that burning train. So first you finger fire and complain that finger is burnt. Prevention is always better than cure.
Please read the following analogy: Buddhists didn't follow this and got annihilated. Jews, almost annihilated until they united and practices Hebrew phrase "baal habayit hishtageya,".
Hindus also can't risk to live in fear of getting burnt again by some miscreants from minority community and wait for years for law of the land to take its own tortoise course.
From NEWYORK TIMES: WHY JEWS APPLIED MAXIMUM FORCE AGAINST HAMAs in spite of 1300 CIVILIAN CAUSALITIES ? Answer: Deterrent
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/19/world/middleeast/19assess.html?_r=1
Excerpts from the above:
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The Israeli theory of what it tried to do here is summed up in a Hebrew phrase heard across Israel and throughout the military in the past weeks: "baal habayit hishtageya," or "the boss has lost it." It evokes the image of a madman who cannot be controlled.
"This phrase means that if our civilians are attacked by you, we are not going to respond in proportion but will use all means we have to cause you such damage that you will think twice in the future," said Giora Eiland, a former national security adviser.unQuote
There is an interesting analogy between Sanghis and Israel:
In 2002: about 55 Karsevaks were burnt to death by minorities ------------> No body talks about it
in 2002: about 2000 muslims were victims of a deterrent violence ----------> Everybody talks about it
In 2009: Hamas rocket & the war killed about 13 Israelis / destroyed several buildings ---> No body talks about it
In 2009: Palestnian causalities is about 1300+ ----------->Everybody talks about this. because thousand times maximum force were applied.
Now if you read the NYTIMES link, one Palestinian lady speaks
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Halima Dardouna, 37, from the northern city of Jabaliya, whose house was destroyed by an Israeli shell, said both Fatah and Hamas were to blame because of their rivalry, "and we are the victims."
She added, "I will never vote for Hamas. They are not able to protect the people, and if they are going to bring this on us, why should they be in power? If I thought they could liberate Jerusalem, I would be patient. But instead they bring this."Did Israel gain something by applying thousand times more force ?
YES. Palestinians will never vote HAMAs or at least think twice before voting them. HAMAs will be forced to change its attitude towards Israel and stop throwing rockets ?
Now, Are the Indian minorities learning something after Godhra Train burning and the aftermaths ?
The answer is NO as they wish to prevent a majority deterrent by constitution ? Theoritically sounds good. But, it is never practical. they need to look with in their community and inform police
- Which madarssa is teaching hate
- Who , in the age group of 18-25 are missing for long time as usually such people go to Pakistan and take training.
- SIMIs activities
- activities of hate minority groups.
- check the daily complain of their Muslim activists (read the following)..
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Also read..
What shall thhe Muslimsy about the Mumbai attack on Bharat?
Shoul thhe...more Shall the people of Bharat discover the date when the Ram temple was d...more
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India's MuslimsIndia and the United States have blamed Lashkar-e-Taiba, an extremist group based in Pakistan, for the horrific terrorist attack in Mumbai. But we cannot rule out the involvement of local people, and there are in fact major rifts in Indian society between Muslims and Hindus.
India's Muslims have deep grievances. Reports by Indian experts substantiate these grievances with statistics; Muslim victims of Hindu attacks fill in the anecdotal evidence; outsiders concur. A Council on Foreign Relations study concluded in 2007 that Indian Muslims are "marginalized" and that the government was dealing only "to some degree" with the problem. A United Nations report further suggested that such conditions could spark serious unrest.
The most recent, most unvarnished survey of Indian Muslim life was carried out by a panel led by Rajindar Sachar, a former chief justice of the Delhi High Court. The findings of that survey were published in late 2006 and sent to Parliament. It has been a touchstone for debate ever since.
The Sachar report acknowledges that Muslims enjoy religious freedom in India, but it paints a grim portrait of their daily lives and chances for advancement, even as India's economy flourishes. The report concludes that "not all religious communities and social groups...have shared equally the benefits of the growth process. Among these, the Muslims, the largest minority community in the country, constituting 13.4 per cent of the population, are seriously lagging behind in terms of most of the human development indicators."
Among other findings that point to low development in many Muslim communities, the report said that Muslims have the highest rate of stunted growth and the second-highest rate of underweight children. Their literacy rate in 2001 was 59 percent, compared with the national average of 65 percent. The report also found that as many as 25 percent of Muslim 6-to-14-year-olds have never been to school or have dropped out, the highest rate in the country.
Although individual Muslims have gained prominence as craftspeople, athletes and entertainers, as a group their poverty rates are close to those of the lowest Hindu castes and outcast communities. Muslims make up only 4 percent of students at top universities and hold only 5 percent of government jobs.
Muslims in India often complain that they are used as "vote banks" by political parties, which pander to them when elections approach (India was the first country to ban Salman Rushdie's The Satanic Verses); then at other times they are marginalized, distrusted and harassed by law enforcement officers. "In general," the Sachar report concludes, "Muslims complained that they are constantly looked upon with a great degree of suspicion not only by certain sections of society but also by public institutions and governance structures. This has a depressing effect on their psyche."
After visiting India earlier this year, Asma Jahangir, a respected United Nations rights monitor and leading Pakistani human rights lawyer, said presciently that the country could face more deadly violence between sectarian communities if much more was not done to deter religious hatred and prevent politicians from exploiting tensions.
Progressives applauded the Sachar report. Mainstream, a magazine of the Indian intellectual left, wrote in 2007 that the Sachar report had "nailed the long-touted Right-wing disinformation about Indian Muslims as a skein of lies." The left in India--within the Communist parties as well as among independent thinkers and academics--has been steadfast and clearheaded in its opposition to religious nationalism of any kind. The left has fought, for example, efforts by the anti-Muslim propagandists of the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party and numerous fascistlike Hindu-based movements to rewrite textbooks to glorify a mythological Hindu history and downplay the enormous role of Muslims.
"Drawing on every conceivable data source, governmental and other, and interacting widely across 15 Indian States where Muslims live in high concentrations, the Sachar Report records, on the basis of facts that few dare refute, a litany of exclusion, alienation and immiseration," Mainstream said. Culling statistics from the report, the magazine added, "Among India's Security Agencies...Muslim representation is 3.2 per cent." It also noted that only 2.1 percent of Muslim farmers owned tractors and a bare 1 percent had hand pumps for irrigation.
In recent decades, Muslim communities in India have been attacked, Muslim weavers have been blinded to destroy their livelihoods, Muslim homes and businesses have been burned and Muslim women have been sexually assaulted with extreme brutality. In 2002 as many as 2,000 Muslims in Gujarat were massacred by Hindu mobs with the acquiescence of the state government and the police, after Muslims were accused, without evidence, of setting fire to a train full of Hindu pilgrims. That death toll, in the home state of Mahatma Gandhi, is ten times the number of those who died in the tragedy in Mumbai.
About Barbara Crossette
Barbara Crossette, United Nations correspondent for The Nation, is a former New York Times correspondent and bureau chief in Asia and at the UN.
She is the author of So Close to Heaven: The Vanishing Buddhist Kingdoms of the Himalayas, published by Alfred A. Knopf in 1995 and in paperback by Random House/Vintage Destinations in 1996, and a collection of travel essays about colonial resort towns that are still attracting visitors more than a century after their creation, The Great Hill Stations of Asia, published by Westview Press in 1998 and in paperback by Basic Books in 1999. In 2000, she wrote a survey of India and Indian-American relations, India: Old Civilization in a New World, for the Foreign Policy Association in New York. She is also the author of India Facing the 21st Century, published by Indiana University Press in 1993.
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